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So, a very simple thing a lost of atheists tend to get wrong is the thought that the Church (Catholic, protestant or otherwise) still follows the ten commandments and most of the old ways quoted in the Old Testament.

However, it is note worthy this is not the case, and this is what I hope to explain.

Essentially, Jesus -if you're not familiar with him, you're deaf and blind- one day gathered his followers and condensed the ten commandments into two laws; Love thy neighbor, and love thy god. 

This easily covers the actual commandments while deposing of the useless ones, for example, if you love your neighbor, you aren't going to kill them, or steal from them. Simple enough, God on the other hand... Well that's a little more complicated.

A lot of people are put off by the idea of Religion because they see it as a set of rules, I myself am technically a Christian, but I follow a more loose module... I treat them as guidelines you could say.

Science is very violent, as is Religion, both are destructive no matter which way you look at it. Christianity creates means to persecute others, and insights violence. Science creates means to destroy others, and insights persecution to use these means.

While the field of science has indeed brought about occurrences that can be considered good and righteous, it has also the ability to make nuclear missiles, disfiguring drugs, and rather deadly omens that really makes the world depressing to look at.

That's not to say Religion doesn't do the same, both have their goods and bads, but if I can give one argument, it's that both sides are wrong.

How? Well my philosophy is that if there isn't merit in both arguments, than the argument can't exist. If you do not have any evidence, than indeed the enemy will shoot you down immediately. Religion has it's merits, it has it's evidence, so does science.

The advantage here is that Science is far more tangible, comfortable even, for people to live in. Whereas religion has a lot of duty involved, and people can shy away from these 'rules'.

I'm not saying either side is correct, fuck no, Science is batshit insane :squee: and Religion is full of fanaticsI'm on fire!, but that doesn't mean that we can't respect each other, which unfortunately we seem to be lacking.

This isn't very coherent, I wasn't trying to make much of an argument, just explaining shit that bugged me for a while. We only use the ten to put little children to bed, they like that sort of thing, but then again. I wouldn't want to tell them about global warming... Because to see a child in melancholy breaks my heart.

My name has been Isaac Clifford, I'll see you next time.
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So so, we all seem, never giving nor taking ground. Just fighting like the children we are.
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*Oswulf Mar 11, 2013  Student General Artist
Please don't be too offended by this - but one thing I notice is people judge the system. The system, any system, is morally neutral. Does a gun shoot a man, or the man using it? Evil comes with people. I had a very one-sided chat with a lady about alcohol - who believes that alcohol is evil. She cites an abusive relative, et cetera. But the common thread is always people.

All this talk of judging systems is superfluous. It's like yelling at a Red HErring and setting a Straw Man on fire. The Red Herring won't yell back and the Straw Man never screams (except the pagan ones with people stuffed inside, vis a vis that Nicholas Cage movie.)

Until we address the real issue - Human Nature - no resolution will ever be resolved.

And by the by. If you REALLY want unreasonable - don't look at us raving, fanatical religious folks - try arguing with a Nietzschean Purist who thinks that because he is an Overman he is better than you. And that when, not IF, push comes to shove, he's going to "cut you down" with all the rest.

Really. The fundies who talk about Hell and such aren't worth the energy. It's the ones with means to do things that you have to worry about.

And science?

Well. I'm a Theologian and not a Scientist. So I can't rant or rave about that.

Anyway. Don't take my comment for offensive, it wasn't meant as such. Just my own thought, provoked in thought by yours. (I wonder what the Empiricists would have to say about that?)
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~UnintendedAwesome Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
My belief is that whatever god or gods are out there don't judge you based on belief but rather action. An atheist who is a good person will be rewarded, and a religious person who is a bad person will be punished. Everyone can believe whatever makes them comfortable as long as they're not cuntwaffles about it.
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